The view of the radical feminists is, in my opinion, absurd. We should remember here that sexism can go both ways. WojPob personally regards feminists as sexist to certain degree.
Is there any difference between the terms "sexism" and "sexual discrimination"? I'm aiming to set the latter to redirect to the former, but I'm not sure if they are exactly the same thing. --Stephen Gilbert
- I added the redirect. I also changed the intro - the previous definition wasn't reflected in most dictionaries, and was somewhat at odds with the way I've used and seen the term used. See definitions. Martin
NPOV ISSUES
The language section states some opinions as facts:
"Language plays a part in sexism"
There is no agreement as to whether or not any commonly availible langues cause sexism or are caused by sexism.
See Against the theory of sexist language
"it is disputed whether certain language causes sexism or sexism causes certain language"
This is ambiguously worded. It's not clear whether the author is saying the dispute is over whether one is true or the other is true, or over whether or not either are true at all.
Blackcats 20:10 UTC, 8 Feb 2005
a view of differences between men and women AS GROUPS
There's a view expoused by evolutionary biologist Helena Cronin [1] that men and women, as groups, are substantially different. This means that when we look at traits of the groups, such as representation in a particular occupation, we should expect to see differences. However, this does not mean that a particular person has to have masculine or feminine traits. I have the impression that this is what was meant by the third definition of sexism in the article, but it isn't really clear. Should we reword the third definition or add a fourth definition? AdamRetchless 00:04, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Negative discrimination?
Sexism is negative discrimination against people based on their assumed or presumed sexual identity.
What is the point of the qualifier "negative"? Dictionary.com simply says "Discrimination based on gender, especially discrimination against women." anthony (see warning) 01:19, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Sexism and Homosexuality
In my opinion it is a violation of the NPOV principle to only quote D.A. Miller on why male homosexuality is less accepted than lesbianism.
Miller bends over backwards to prove that even where men are obviously treated worse, it is still misogyny. In my opinion the explanation is way simpler than what Miller concocts. Recall the widespread and obviously sexist notion of "fairer sex" and "uglier sex". Based on that notion, when a woman is intimate with another woman, it is perceived as the creation of an exclusive sphere of pureness uncontaminated by the "ugliness" of males. OTOH, two men getting intimate are seen as rejects who were deemed unworthy of access to that elevated sphere. Of course some men's fantasies driven by emotional masochism do play a role in the creation and perpetuation of this thought pattern, but I would argue that feminist man-hating propaganda is the main suspect. Note there was none of the latter in ancient Greece, a society 120% patriarchal and unambiguously male-supremacist but with no problems accepting male homosexuality.
But the section of the article is not about explanations of homophobia - it is about the relationship between homophobia and sexism. So quoting only Miller's theory does not imply that that is the only theory which seeks to explain homophobia, and so doesn't violate NPOV -- VoluntarySlave
Yes, the section is about relationship between sexism and homophobia, but it is also about explanations of homophobia, precisely because Miller and other quoted gender theorists explain homophobia with sexism. But there is a problem with their explanation. It is biased. They attribute homophobia solely to men's anti-female sexism, while I demonstrate that it can also be attributed to the society's anti-male sexism. Gender theorists seem to imply, and certainly they assume, that only men can be sexist. This is in itself a sexist position. Therefore it does violate NPOV to only quote gender theorists on the issue. -- Szczepan Hołyszewski